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ELAN 3.8.0 and 3.8.1 crashes

Posted by alecsprodan at 2009-12-02 14:47  

  Hello,

  I don't know if this is very common, but recently I have been experiencing some ELAN programme crashes. After finishing a line, wanting to go backwards on the soundline, sometimes, ELAN crashes.

  Now, I know there's very little you can do, but please inform me if it's normal or if anybody else has the same problem.
 

Many thanks,

Alecs Prodan

CLA (Cercle de Lungüística Aplicada), University of Lleida

Re: ELAN 3.8.0 and 3.8.1 crashes

Posted by alecsprodan at 2009-12-03 13:36  
Well, no software is ever perfect, so I very much thank the Backup feature, although it doesn't really do things for you. I made this for my colleagues here at the Research office, so I might as well post it here if any of you need it:

When ELAN decides to crash

by Alecs Prodan

 

(Just in case, make a copy of your ELAN files before doing this)

 

1.     Close ELAN

2.     Go to the folder My Documents\ ELAN save files

3.     Of the file you’re working, you should have more than one file

{ your ELAN file (.EAF) is named example.eaf }

4.     You’ll find another one called example.eaf.001 (or you’ll see that it is said to be File type 001)

5.     Right click on this 001 file, open with… , (select programme from a list), Wordpad

6.     Select all the information ( Edit – Select all )

7.     Copy

8.     Now, open the file example.eaf with Wordpad as well, select all, delete, and Paste

9.     Now you can open example.eaf from ELAN and all your transcript should be there


 
Salutations,

Alecs Prodan

CLA (Cercle de Lungüística Aplicada), University of Lleida

Re: ELAN 3.8.0 and 3.8.1 crashes

Posted by hasloe at 2009-12-03 22:35  

Thanks for reporting. Could you a bit more specific on what you mean by finishing a line and going backwards on the soundline? Is this after playing a selection and then placing the media playhead back to the beginning of the selection?
Which Windows version is this and what kind of media files?
Instead of the copy and paste actions you could also rename the files in explorer by removing the .001 part.

-Han

Re: Re: ELAN 3.8.0 and 3.8.1 crashes

Posted by alecsprodan at 2009-12-04 17:10  

   Indeed.

  For example, I'm finishing something a Tier said and then quickly press ENTER for the line to close so I can move to the next speech moment after a pause. Now, after pressing ENTER I go either back or forward rather quickly, with SHIFT+ARROW and then quickly press ALT+C to clear selection then CTR+SPACE to start a selection. The problem is, to my belief, that sometimes either ELAN or Windows itself doesn't take it. Although I don't think it's Windows because we're on a CoreDuo 3.00GHz and 4Gb RAM, but then again... it's Windows...
  
  We're using Windows XP Professional ( 5.1 comp 2600 ) SP3 .

  The sound files are WAV and the video files are MPG .

  Rename the files? That's what I first thought. Press F2 and erase the .001 . Well, not in this version of XP at least. The files are named exactly like the original ones ELAN is working with, but the file TYPE is .001 . Strange, isn't it?

  Oh, by the way, I have written an "ELAN for Starters" manual for other colleagues here in Lleida and at the University of Barcelona and Cardiff. There are a couple of things yet to be added, but everybody found it rather useful because it's technical-jargon-free as we'd say. Contact me in case you'd like to have a look at it.


Salutations,

Alecs Prodan

alecsprodan@dal.udl.cat

CLA (Cercle de Lungüística Aplicada), University of Lleida

Re: Re: Re: ELAN 3.8.0 and 3.8.1 crashes

Posted by hasloe at 2009-12-11 16:46  

Ah, I see. I never noticed it, but could be that rapidly using a series of shortcuts could lead to problems. The media player(s) and the viewers need to be updated several times and there could be a problem in the synchronisation of these events? Can try to reproduce.

We're always interested in documentation like that, written by users. We could add it to the "third party resources" page, if you like (there are already similar documents there, but more are welcome).

-Han

 

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