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Toolbox to Elan time-alignment issue

Posted by mfthomas at 2010-01-06 18:31  

I'm running into a problem where I can get an .eaf file exported to Toolbox (although I have to add the \id field by hand).<br><br>Once I interlinearize the text in Toolbox, I can't get it to import into ELAN properly.<br><br>The time-alignment doesn't appear to be working.&nbsp; It is as if the entire file is being put into a single time segment dependent on the \id frame.<br><br>I tried deleting the \id line but then it just gives me an error message.&nbsp; <br><br>I'm running Toolbox under Cross-OverMac emulator.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Mike<br><br><br>The beginning of the Toolbox .txt file looks like:<br><br>\_sh v3.0&nbsp; 400&nbsp; Text<br><br>\id casino trip<br><br>\ref 001<br>\tx wohei nuhu' heetbee3toonou'u&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; noh<br>\mb wohei nuhu' heet-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; bee3-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; too - nou'u&nbsp;&nbsp; noh<br>\ge okay&nbsp; this&nbsp; where-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lots/many- do&nbsp; - 12.ITER and<br>\ps part&nbsp; det&nbsp;&nbsp; prefix.rel- prefix-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; vai - infl&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; part<br><br>\tx heetoustoo?<br>\mb hee-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; toustoo<br>\ge REDUP-&nbsp; what do?<br>\ps prefix- vai.INTERR<br><br>\ELANBegin 6.850<br>\ELANEnd 9.510<br>\ELANParticipant B<br>\ft Well when we finish, what are you going to do? {Note use of iterative <br>rather than subjunctive}<br><br>\ref 002<br>\tx bee3- bee3toono'ohk,<br>\mb *-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; bee3-&nbsp;&nbsp; toon-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - ohk<br>\ge -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; finish- almost/not quite- 1S/3S - SUBJ<br>\ps -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; prefix- prefix-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; infl&nbsp; - infl<br><br>\tx heetniini&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ahh<br>\mb heetni- in&nbsp;&nbsp; - i&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *ahh<br>\ge FUT-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; in&nbsp;&nbsp; - 1S.IMPER ***<br>\ps prefix- infl - infl&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ***<br><br>\tx wontoyeinousinenoo&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; noto'oowuu'.<br>\mb won-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; toyeinousi - ne-&nbsp;&nbsp; noo&nbsp; not-&nbsp; o'oowuu'<br>\ge ALLAT-&nbsp; rest&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - 1S-&nbsp;&nbsp; 1S&nbsp;&nbsp; 1S-&nbsp;&nbsp; house<br>\ps prefix- vai&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - infl- infl infl- ni.loc<br><br>\ELANBegin 10.690<br>\ELANEnd 15.750<br>\ELANParticipant C<br>\ft When we get finished, I am going to go rest at my house.<br><br><br>

Re: Toolbox to Elan time-alignment issue

Posted by hasloe at 2010-01-06 23:50  

Could it be that the "\id" marker is defined as the record marker in the referenced .typ file (\mkrRecord)? That could explain the single timespan in case "\id" is in the Toolbox file and also the error when it is not in the Toolbox txt file.

-Han

Re: Re: Toolbox to Elan time-alignment issue

Posted by mfthomas at 2010-01-07 16:30  

That does appear to be the case, the .typ file begins as follows:<br><br>\+DatabaseType Text<br>\ver 5.0<br>\desc Standard interlinear text type.<br>\+mkrset <br>\lngDefault English<br>\mkrRecord id<br><br>How would I fix it?&nbsp;&nbsp; Every field in the database structure is dependent on the id...<br><br><br><br><br><br>

Re: Re: Toolbox to Elan time-alignment issue

Posted by mfthomas at 2010-01-09 16:33  

How do I correct this?<br>

Re: Re: Re: Toolbox to Elan time-alignment issue

Posted by hasloe at 2010-01-15 22:36  

Sorry for the delay. I'm not a Toolbox specialist, so I don't really know. If you have a project open, there is a Database->Properties menu. In the window that appears there is a list of markers, that can be changed, deleted etc. In the "Modify" window of a selected marker there is a field "Under what in the hierarchy". But, if you select the record marker, the "Delete" button is disabled and there are no other options than "None" in the Modify->Under what in the hierarchy drop down list.
So, how to change the hierarchy in a save way, I currently don't know.

-Han
 
 
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